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seraiki issue 2006/09/06 10:44 Karma: 22  
Dear Users,
Some friends have begun to decide about the capital of Seraiki sooba. The main purpose of launching this site is to establish the lost identity of Seraki people and preserve their language, culture and heritage. Seraikis are by all means a nation, who have been divided and made nameless.
To raise the issue of the 'capital' of the sooba on this forum is premature and confusing.
Like a Seraiki saying "Manjheen Jhang aahin te madhan pehle aa gaey"
About a dozen seraiki politial parties are in the field.Let them 'solve' this issue.
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Re:seraiki issue 2006/09/13 06:33 Karma: 2  
Ya, A jo Masjid bunri nahin mulaan pehlay Aa gain.


Main tohaday nal itefaq kareendaan.


Allah di Aman.

Milsoon
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Re:seraiki issue 2006/11/01 04:47 Karma: 0  
Just wanted to ask, what is the definition of the Seraiki Sooba.

If we have a new Seraik Sooba, will all the Hindu Seraikis displaced in India and all over the world be welcome to settle.

Also, another question. The hindushahi temples posted on your gallery are called KAfir Kot. From my knowledge, i understand that Kafir is a derogatory term that means NON BELIEVER.

Is it not time that we change this kind of derogation towards our own brethren, who are all children of the same motherland?

Love and Peace

Vikram
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Re:seraiki issue 2006/12/07 15:38 Karma: 0  
Aslam-o-Alakum

Baloch Sb. today I read yours this massage / post, although this massage was posted on 2006/09/06 10:44 but today I get chance to read it. You are right that it’s not a time to discuss the issue of “Capital for Seraiki Soba”.

According to me it’s a big problem / tragedy of our Seraikies that we never remain together, that’s why we are so backward. All of us try to get his personal rights / benefits and never try to fight for our “WASAIB”, and now at this time discussion of Capital for Seraiki Soba is the example of our selfishness, and the same thing we can see in our leader of Seraikies, they all are on the same way. But now its time to change our attitude / our thinking, now we will have to run together. We can survive if we will be united as a Muslim, as a Pakistani and as a Seraiki.

Mr. Vikram.Your question for Seraiki Soba ….. ans…… its very simple that we are demanding a new Province around our Seraiki Wasaib, and your second question about Kafir Kot, according to me non Muslims are called as Kafir in Urdu and as well as in Seraiki, its not derogatory term. Our Islam respects every one and never allows hearting any one.
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Re:seraiki issue 2006/12/07 23:35 Karma: 9  
Dear Vikram,

Siraiki soba if created as per aspirations of siraiki people will include districts of Dera Ismail Khan, Mianwali, Bhakkar, Leyyah, Dera ghazi Khan, Rajanpur, RahimyarKhan, Bahawalpur, Multan, Muzafargarh and Khanewal. These areas are predominatelty siraiki and tied by undeniable realtion of same history, culture and language.

Siraiki indeed is a different language from punjabi,but, it is not only this different language , due to which we want a separate siraiki province . Siraikies under punjabi domination have been denied their due share in economic resources and been deprived of their rights. Siraiki area and people so far, have been treated, more or less , like a colony of punjab . If you visit waisab some day , you will realise , siraiki areas are quite backward and under developed. We siraikies, I must say, are equally responsible for it.


Resettlement of Siraiki Hindu diaspora is a very interesting question. Dont you think, man yet has to be human being in south Asia? ....

Siraiki hindus before partition, as far as my knowledge is concerned were more educated, politically well aware and economically strong as compared to muslims of that time. Hindus among their ranks had noted lawyers, businessmen , doctors professors and philanthropists. Before partition,in Dera Ismail Khan , we had only one muslim school as compared to five or six schools of hindus and sikhs. Their migration to India caused a great loss to economy and society of this area. Unfortunately muslims of the siraiki belt were not trained and able to fill the gap created by this emigration of Hindus, as a result the opportunities which existed , in many areas were either lost or availed by the new settlers. In this way siraikies stayed where they were . If Hindus had not migrated in 1947 , situation would have been different to great extent.

Our generation which has experience of living with hidus of wasaib , oftenly recall them with sad and repenting tone , they describe them as more urbane , very tolerant, peace loving and reform minded. It is common saying in Dera Ismail Khan that we have exchanged our pigeons (hindus) with vultures (new settlers) .

At this stage , keeping all the realities in mind, my answer to your question will be negative . Hindu resettlement will be as difficult as resettlement of the muslims in india. At this stage we have only few liberals on both sides of border , he have few doves and more hawks. Besides , the generation which would have asipred to resttle may have expired and new generation born and raised in India may have little interest , even in knowing about wasaib.

Kafirkot:- I am not sure whether it is derogatory or not , but frankly speaking I like this name . You are right Kafir means a person who dont believes in God, as described by muslims. It is not necessary that all people share same conception of God. For me it is suffice that it hasnt been renamed as Nabikot or some thing like that.


It is matter of pleasure that kafirkot still exists in some form , although locals caused great harm , but it still exists. Name Kafirkot was given to place as much is not known about the place and only information available is that these were constructed by Hindu rajas.

I hope this explains quite a few things.

Regards.
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Re:seraiki issue 2007/03/02 12:32 Karma: 0  
sada pahla masla soba nahain sada pahala masla itahad hy jo ky kahain quom itahad dy bakhair koi apran maqsad hasil nahain kar sgda nahi sady kol koi bahtrain leader hy na he koi fourm hy ijaz sahib koshish hy kisi taraha saraiki qoum hki jaha pahly kathy thiwin sadi dua hy ky ijaz apny maqsad wich kamiab thiwin NAEEM HANBI BALOCH .DUBAI
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