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Freedom of speech 2006/09/06 16:13
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Dear Admin ! You have said that " To raise the issue of the 'capital' of the sooba on this forum is premature and confusing" So dear, we are here to remove "confusions" and misconceptions among Seraiki peoples by talking in a friendly enviorment. We are here to observe; what opinions Seraiki peoples have about their nation, what difficulties they have to counter to get separate province, to know and to terminate confilcts among seraiki people's sub-groups. "WE SHOULD NOT WASTE OUR TIME IN USELESS TALKINGS" We should take practical steps to achieve our goal. You have said, "About a dozen seraiki political parties are in the field.Let them 'solve' this issue" So dear, what these political parties have done in past 59 years for Seraiki peoples except enjoying land cruiser's rides. You have said"The main purpose of launching this site is to establish the lost identity of Seraki people and preserve their language, culture and heritage" Firstly, all Seraikis should be united by removing misconceptions and conflicts among themselves by their own not by "political leaders". In past 59 years how much "issues" have been solved by political leaders. So, don't say "Let them 'solve' this issue". Tell me how the language, culture and heritage of a nation can be preserved when this nation is divided into groups. So we should unite all Seraiki nation by removing any conflicts among its groups. You have said "we should not talk about capitol" To achieve the goal we should make a "road-map" first. For example: what are the historical evidences that decide the center of our civilization?, what practical steps should be taken to resolve poverty, illetracy and other major problems of Seraiki peoples all over Pakistan?. YOU are not alone to think all this. Numberless Seraiki intellectuals are try to make a recongination for Seraiki peoples. The main point is making a single platform for all these thinkers. I am sorry to say that this forum denie freedom of speech and the creation of understanding among Seraiki peoples. Create a ability to listen someone's comments being a admin. Wasiab is beautiful name don't let the "Chudrahat" enter in it.
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admin (Admin)
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Re:Freedom of speech 2006/09/07 02:25
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Dear Faheem, you are free to talk about any issue relating to seraiki cause.As for as I know the issue of centre of seraiki people is settled among the nation i.e. Multan.It was an issue in the beginning, but now it is a non issue. Who is granting you a sooba,still you are named janubi punjab by the rulers of pakistan. We are a nation of over 40 million people,but in last sensus report we were counted 15 million only,and we are boasting of being 61st according to this damn census report,which had no column of seraiki in its profarma. I am not advocating seraiki parties.I hope that our younger generation will carry on the cause. sorry for hurting, Admin.
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Re:Freedom of speech 2006/09/07 05:43
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Well,
I agree with admin, siraiki sooba and its capital are non issues. Neither their is demand fo r Siraiki sooba , nor any such discussion on the forum . The major problem with we siraikies is that we are very emotional people , we are high on rehotric and low on action . And brother you tell me why we are worried about last brick when even first hasnt be laid.
Paitence and courtesy are the most desired virtues.
Regards
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Re:Freedom of speech 2006/09/07 21:17
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Dear Admin! Your few sentences have revealed some real facts from fog. Yes, it is bitter truth that there is no green signal for our demands. There is a long way yet, to our destination. But, we are not going to leave it any cost. All Seraiki population surveys and estimations are based on goverment polices. We are not going to accept their down-sided blind estimations. They don't even consider us a community or nation. They are trying to make all Pakistanis feel that thinking about Seraiki province is a silly idea and foolish behavior by Seraiki people. They should know that our demand have a logic and have strong reasons behind it. My grandpa used to say: "Sejh koon chardha daikh tay raat ko wagda daikh". So, when our movement for Seraiki province got stronger as it should be, they have to grant our eternal demand. Some times, being "zero tolerance" blood we ignore or skip realities. I apologize for using some harsh words in my last post. Sincere, Malik Faheem Safdar.
Post edited by: Malik Faheem Safdar, at: 2006/09/07 21:19
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Re:Freedom of speech 2006/09/08 23:20
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Dear Faheem, when i was doing masters in BZ University in 1988, i realised that seraiki students can do which is beyond "upper punjab" students limits.having said that is not discrimination but it is fact. but brother-a-aziz we need skills, maths ,English and dedication to studies and business. please do yourself, and spread the word,people like our admin are our asset and we have to learn from them
cheers
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Re:Freedom of speech 2006/09/09 08:18
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Dear exiledjournalist ! Hay man I know this fact well, because i m doing my Electrical Engineering in Lahore. And also i have been living here for past four years approx. I know skills, maths ,English and dedication to studies, is very important for developing nation to go ahead. You said "seraiki students can do which is beyond "upper punjab" students limits". I don't believe upon this funny theory. There are numberless brilliant Seraiki students in different institutions of Upper Punjab. I recommend you to comne to Lahore's higher education institutions like U.E.T and K.E.M.C and observe what is going on here. Many Seraiki students are position holders. Don't say that Seraikis have not enough capabilities or talent to cop with the new era. ok!!!What you have said, may be your "personal experience" in upper punjab. Thanks for the advice "learn from admin".
Ijaz Baloch Sahb is a nice person with great knowledge of Seraiki civilization. It is not easy job to administrate a website which is alone on internet's vastness to present the Seraikis of Pakistan. He is fully capable to do this job. We have a few intellectuals like him. I respect him by heart. i am here to learn from him and other intellectuals. You need to shut the fuck up. ok
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